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A good, unbiased outsiders view of the Baptist faithReview Date: 1998-02-03
A true account of ChristianityReview Date: 1999-08-23
favorableReview Date: 1998-04-27
Agnostic revisits fundamentalist ChristianityReview Date: 2002-12-12
He is disarmingly honest, and one would be unusually hard-pressed to rake up evidence that he had any particular axe to grind, or that he set out to do an expose of Protestant fundamentalism: Indeed, he is candid about the inadequacies of his own particular agnosticism, and does not try to set them against the often seemingly naive and foolish world of fundamentalism. What he discovers are real people who don't fit the stereotype, and his genuine intentions towards these people (who became real friends during his time at Criswell) are clearly visible.
His most interesting observation is that the apparent distance between these fundamentalists and unbelievers - the former are heavenbound, while the latter are wicked sinners destined for hell unless they repent - is only intellectual; on a deeper, more human and heartfelt level the author finds that most of his evangelical friends and acquaintances are accepting, and there is little sign of any real distance in their relations.
Bryan is gifted in that, although he is no Christian, and remained unconvinced by the arguments and claims he was faced with at Criswell, he can see others first and foremost as human beings. Thus, Chapter and Verse is no anti-fundamentalist polemic; rather it is one man's account of what he really found - minus all the trappings of labels and stereotypes - when he got to know a group of fundamentalists for themselves.
As is common with books written about theological, biblical or ecclesiastical issues by people who are foremost journalists (I am reminded of Bruce Bawer's far less charitable Stealing Jesus: How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity), the author reveals himself as something of a dilettante on some religious matters. He makes a number of elementary mistakes: His definition of the Chalcedonian formulation of the two natures in Christ is misleading; He wrongly includes premillennialism as one of the five fundamentals published by the earliest fundamentalists; there were a few others.
He also draws one or two puzzling conclusions, such as that fundamentalists (apparently) are uniquely representative of "biblical" Christianity; that non-evangelicals cannot lay claim to following the Bible as closely and consistently as evangelicals. Such an inference is only true within the fundamentalist scheme of interpretation; nevertheless, Bryan is so transparent and genuine that one can overlook a few errors made in good faith. Chapter and Verse is one of the more nuanced portrayals of fundamentalist Christianity in recent years, and Bryan's compelling manner had me hooked from start to finish.
Excellent!Review Date: 2001-03-22
- Jim Parker, the philosophical ethics prof, who presented the intellectual case for Christianity
- Danny Akin, now president at Southeastern Seminary, then theology prof at Criswell, who taught Bryan the evangelical view of the Bible and Biblical doctrine
In the process, Bryan sat through numerous chapels and evangelistic meetings, met hundreds of believers and heard their stories, attended a preaching conference in Florida, and tagged along on a missionary trip to civil war-torn El Salvador.
Throughout this fascinating book, a journal of sorts, really, Bryan gives a sketchy autobiography of his disbelief. In the end, Bryan, though challenged mightily by the witness of the sold-out Criswellians, chooses to remain in his comfortable `soft agnosticism.' He makes this decision ultimately not because of intellectual difficulties - indeed, he couldn't come close to answering Dr. Parker's attacks on atheism/naturalism - but because he cherishes his current lifestyle -- what he calls the lifestyle of "frozen margaritas and R-rated movies."
Bryan is surprisingly objective and very generous in his portrayal of Criswell and the Christianity represented by its students and faculty. It is obvious to any reader that he enjoyed his time there and learned quite a bit as well.
Altogether, a good read.


Refreshing, engaging, useableReview Date: 2008-10-08
The book is mostly a narrative. Vines was at a hotel when the hotel manager found out that he was a Christian speaker. She invited him to dinner with her staff and he accepted. What he didn't know was that the whole thing was a set-up. Within the first few moments of dinner it became apparent that the staff's plan was to ridicule him for believing in God. But Vines did not flinch and did not become defensive. He simply asked if they could engage in an intellectual conversation. What followed was a conversation that went way past midnight. The conversation included anger, humor, mocking and tears. But in the end... well, I won't tell you. But you should read it.
I've read lots of "apologetic" books (books that defend the Bible, God or Christianity), but typically their approach is to offer logic and proof in the form of "Here's why you should believe." Dinner with Skeptics was refreshing because it actually lets us read how the conversation played out. It made the book very engaging (I typically don't read books like this in 2 days).
There are "asides" in the book where Vines takes a time-out from the story to explain why he chose to say what he did, or to expound on the topic. These were helpful breaks from the story.
I would suggest this book for anyone who is struggling with understanding why there is pain, evil and suffering in this world. Vines' insights were helpful to me personally and I have already had opportunity to use some of what I've learned when talking with others.
Good Answers To Tough QuestionsReview Date: 2008-08-17
My first encounter with the writing of Jeff Vines came via an abbreviated version of this same story published in The Christian Standard as a 3 part series on August 13th, 20th & 27th of 2006. The story was compelling then and is even more compelling in the fuller format of the book.
I'm not sure if the dinner and conversations recounted in this book are factual events or fictitious characters invented to allow Jeff to make his points. They are presented in a manner that makes me think they are real events but there are parts of this story that seem almost too incredible. One of the people at this dinner reportedly was in a distraught emotional state, even crying for the 6+ hours this dinner and conversation lasted yet not one person at the dinner raised a question about her emotional state before Jeff approached her almost 6 hours into the meal and discussion. Imagining a scenario where this could occur is difficult. A boss and her employees making a practice of regularly eating dinner together after work is also a management-employee relationship that is at minimum very unusual. The order in which the skeptic's questions come and their willingness to accept the answers given is tailor made for the Apologist to make his argument. This situation is almost too good to be true but life is often stranger than fiction.
As a Christian with a deep interest in Christian Apologetics I am personally very distressed by much of what passes as scholarship in apologetics circles. There are quality books and material, available but a significant amount of the material is Apologists quoting or misquoting each other and often taking quotes out of their original context. That is why I cringed when seeing in the introduction that Jeff had added a footnote to his comparison of a tornado passing through a junkyard and assembling a fully functioning 747 as describing how one of the dinner guests viewed God's likeliness of recovering from where she perceived God had gone. The footnote referenced the original source. The tornado example originated in astronomer Fred Hoyle's 1983 book *The Intelligent Universe*. Hoyle was a proponent of a theory that life was transmitted to the Earth via microbes traveling in comets. He was arguing against the impossibility of the abiogenesis required by other evolutionists that believe life auto-organized on this planet. Hoyle wrote the following passage:
"A junkyard contains all the bits and pieces of a Boeing 747, dismembered and in disarray. A whirlwind happens to blow through the yard. What is the chance that after its passage a fully assembled 747, ready to fly, will be found standing there? So small as to be negligible, even if a tornado were to blow through enough junkyards to fill the whole Universe." (p.19)
I have no objection to the paraphrase of this example but since the quote in its original context has no connection to the context Jeff is using it in, then the footnote is not applicable. The way some Apologists quote and misquote each other I almost expect a book by another author, quoting Vines, paraphrasing Hoyle and now claiming that Hoyle was making a theological claim.
With those few minor caveats I found the book to be engaging and helpful to those people either struggling with the questions surrounding the problem of evil themselves or for lay believers that are looking for simple and practical arguments to answer these questions. The book puts in the format of a dinner conversation the questions that most believers have heard from skeptics at one time or another concerning reconciling our belief in a good and omnipotent God and various aspects of the problem of evil.
In the interest of full disclosure I should note that Jeff Vines recently became the senior pastor of my church which might lead some people to believe that I would endorse anything he wrote. However, while I like, respect and on many occasions agree with Jeff Vines, I'm am not his sycophant. He and I have numerous areas of disagreement but I don't expect to agree with any man 100% of the time. However, tackling complex theological issues in ways that are easy to understand and practical in the lives of non-theologians is something that Jeff Vines does very well. For the reader who is looking for clear answers to some tough questions concerning God and evil this book is a good start.

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A variety of styles and topicsReview Date: 2004-10-03
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An accurate and thoughtful essay on the nature of GodReview Date: 1998-08-17

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What do members of St. Mark's think about this book?Review Date: 1997-07-02

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debunkers are losers!Review Date: 2008-07-31
whats the difference between debunkers and Christian fundamentalist..there isn't one there!
there both cults!
there is an esoteric side to life that the scientist don't know much about..I have had experience with ESP,OBE and helped make 2 documentary's on UFO phenomena.The reason people believe in strange things is because TRUTH IS STRANGER THAN FICTION!
I have no time for sceptic debunkers
OBTW it's possible to get 3 pairs dice correct in a row! Because I have done it (without conscious effort) "small inner voice"..it comes to when NOT thinking about it.
all I can say to debunkers..is get real..it's DIRECT EXPERIENCE!..positive people know the truth!
I feel sorry for debunkers..
Why People BelieveReview Date: 2008-07-30
I love the section on History and Pseudohistory-Holocaust- Debunking the deniers
Great book to retool our "Skepticism Radar".
Question....everything!
So that explains itReview Date: 2008-05-09
Well thought out book showing how even smart people can believe weird things.Review Date: 2008-08-04
Must read.
Why Anti-Christians Repeatedly Resort To Cheap Shot Inuendo to Prove the Bible Is BadReview Date: 2008-04-15
Just look at the stupid title. So whatever is "weird" and "odd" must be wrong huh? That's a childish school bully's insult: look at that guy over there, he's a weird because he doesn't dress, talk like us or agree with whatever we think is cool, so he must be inferior and let's keep insulting him.
The authors reject this over 1900 years old common sense advice:
"Stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment." - Jesus
"There is a way that seems right to a man but the end thereof leads to death." - Proverbs
They reject it, hence why their book, even the title, is stupid.
What's weird is believing that unimaginably complex amount of ordered life-sustaining and replicating information, a super beautiful universe with life-friendly areas; living replicating, emotional, multi-sensory, biological robots which enjoy singing, dancing, learning, and doing good and evil were created by an exploding bomb from dozens of billions of years ago with no explanation as to why it exploded which no one saw explode in the first place, and which the evidence shows did not ever happen.
Nor is there any evidence to explain why many living kinds of animals that are supposed to evolve over time (according to evolutionists) have not evolved after millions of years, but only lost some features such as the ability to defend against a certain kind of disease or digest some sort of food (like how non-animal humans have been losing the ability to digest milk or bread well). Nor is there evidence to explain why there are very high-tech ancient man-made tools in millions of years old strata when evolutionists claim man wasn't evolved enough at that time to make them or how an exploding MATERIAL bomb can create SPIRITUAL things like GOODNESS, EVIL, INFORMATION, and THOUGHTS. To believe the impossible over the evident and probable is what is "weird".


HELP yourself to BETH LISICK's insight!Review Date: 2008-09-26
It was especially intriguing since I could have the advantage of the author's experience without the aggravation of going through all of the self-help options myself! And, I might even get something positive out of her revelations.
That is exactly what this book is....Beth's account of trying out the suggestions of nearly every popular guru out there. It feels as if you are speaking to a good (and funny) friend over coffee as she explains the ups & downs, ins & outs, good & bad, silly & fun, stupid & awful things she has found during this year of exploration. It is a very quick and easy read, fun and interesting.
If you are wondering what all those gurus are about and what it would be like to meet them, you will really enjoy this book. If you are looking for a real self-help book...this will not improve you but it will entertain you.
Quite readable and sometimes laugh-out-loud funnyReview Date: 2008-08-28
Lisick's book is a light, fast, reasonably enjoyable read. It's the sort of book that one is apt to like or not depending on how much you enjoy the author's personality, because it's not just about the self-help: Lisick weaves anecdotes from her own life (which is happy enough but rather disorganized) into the narrative. I laughed aloud a few times while reading the book, twice during Lisick's chapter on organizing. Here she is describing her initial conversation with an organizing consultant:
"She listens in a way I imagine a top-notch therapist would, not even perceptibly cringing when I say that Eli parks his bike in the living room or that we need a place to store mustaches and wigs."
And during another conversation:
"When we get to the closet, I make a confession. Something I have never told anyone.
"'Our shoes are in a wine rack.' I say it breathlessly. Confessing, yes, but also hoping she'll ignore it.
"'I'm sorry. Your what?'
"'We keep most of our shoes in this wire wine rack thing that we got at a garage sale.'
"'Oh.' She sounds amused. 'And is that working for you?'
"'Well, no.'
"'Okay...'
"I feel reflective.
"'I think it's because a shoe and a bottle of wine are not really the same shape.'
"'Good.'"
But my favorite chapter is about Lisick's experiences on a Richard Simmons Carnival Cruise, which is absolutely fascinating.
"And then I see him. Actually, it's that voice I hear first. One flight below us, amid the rather pasty, confused mob, he absolutely glows. His skin doesn't look as orange in person, not as sprayed on. He simply exudes a healthy and natural-seeming bronzeness and is wearing his signature red-and-white-striped shorts with a red crystal-studded tank top. The best word for his hair is probably 'round.'
"We make eye contact. I see him spot our 'Cruise to Lose' name tags and then he rushes up the stairs. He's coming right for us. Thank God I pinned that thing on! He bounds straight to Jan, wrapping his arms around her, and plants a kiss on her cheek."
The experience is what you'd expect in a way--a mix of schmaltz and tears and preternatural pep and funny, but you come away from it thinking that Richard Simmons is simply a genius at what he does.
If Helping Me Help Myself sounds familiar, you may be thinking of a very similar title that was published not long before Lisick's, Jennifer Niesslein'sPractically Perfect in Every Way (see my review). I can't imagine that either author was very happy at the coincidence, but sometimes ideas are just in the air. Of the two, Niesslein's is probably more informative, and I think she made more of an attempt to adopt the programs she was writing about, while Lisick's interest was often only half-hearted. But both books are quite readable. I wouldn't steer readers away from either.
-- Debra Hamel
beth lisick rocks!Review Date: 2008-08-21
Fun, smart, laugh-out-loud readReview Date: 2008-07-21
One of the better books I've read in a whileReview Date: 2008-07-14

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Skepticism is DominantReview Date: 2007-11-24
Regardless of Shermer's personal opinions, I found his book to be well written, well researched and enjoyable. He posed numerous fresh arguments in a world where the God v. Science battle constantly rages. Also, several of his arguments caused me to rethink my own beliefs and why I stand by them. While Shermer is clearly biased in favor of science, after reading his book I think that he desires to respect all types of people along with their individual beliefs. I enjoyed his writing and the many thoughts that it sparked in me.
Who guards the guardians?Review Date: 2008-01-08
A respectful critique of religionReview Date: 2007-10-21
I once was blind..Review Date: 2007-06-06
Fascinating Look at god BeliefReview Date: 2006-10-15
There are a few small problems with this book, however. The first is its lack of cohesion. Is Mr. Shermer writing a general interest nonfiction book about god belief in the U.S. or is he addressing specific pet peeves that he's come across in his research? For example; in chapter 6, we are subjected to long quotations from Pope John Paul II and Shermer's feelings about these excerpts. I really didn't care much for this, and I didn't think it was that relevant to the book's theme. The second main problem is similar--Shermer finishes the book discussing contingency theory, and this is as good a way to end the book as any. Unfortunately, this segment is overlong and too focused on responding to Daniel Dennett's response to Stephen Jay Gould.
Mr. Shermer could have even left these ideas in his book, but he should have trimmed them down considerably. Keeping all this in mind, How We Believe is a vital and needed addition to the nontheist library. I highlighted (highlit?) many passages as very pertinent to our society's blanket acceptance of patently ridiculous mythology and the reasons behind its folly. Put this one high on your list!

Loads of info.Review Date: 2008-09-21
A real eye openerReview Date: 2008-01-08
Junk Writing Review Date: 2007-08-09
Ruth is gone, but the Bible's still hereReview Date: 2007-08-10
There are some scholarly, well written books by skeptics who present a thoughtful argument against the Bible, but this is not one of them.
It is apparent, however, that Green did spend many hours studying the Bible in her research. The question it, did she read the Bible with an open mind, willing to learn something, or did she open it with preconceived notions, which she then set out to prove by twisting Scripture, taking Bible verses out of context, and treating the Bible in a shallow manner, without objectively looking for the true meaning of the text?
Her arguments against the Bible might have been more believable if she had treated the Book, and those who live by it, with more respect instead of taking every opportunity to ridicule and mock the Bible and Christians. The Bible is the most widely printed book since Gutenberg, and the most widely quoted book, but Ms. Green could find virtually nothing positive to say about it.
Green does, to be sure, bring up a lot of difficulties found in the Bible, including the fact that the God of the Old Testament seems to be cruel and violent, contrasting with the compassionate God of the New Testament. If she had bothered to look, though, she would have found that this, as well as the other Bible difficulties she mentions, have been addressed and resolved by real Bible scholars.
And am I the only reader who found her sense of humor lame and unfunny?
Another thing that I found annoying about Green is that she's constantly instructing the reader on how they should react, what they should conclude, and what they should believe. This reader, Ms Green, is quite capable of making those decisions for himself.
After reading the book, I had to ask myself why she wrote it in the first place. Here is a woman who doesn't believe in God, any God, and she's writing a book about another book that claims to be the inspired word of a being she doesn't even believe in. She tells us what's wrong with the book, and how she would have written it if she'd been the Almighty. Wouldn't it have made more sense if she'd written a book explaining why she doesn't believe God exists?
I as a Christian did not find her book offensive, as other critics have said. I did, however, find it poorly written, biased, sarcastic, unpersuasive and humorless (but trying very hard to be funny).
There is no part of the Bible that I would avoid discussing with skeptics and critics. If I were to discuss a particular Bible topic, I would not, however, gloss over the subject and quote Bible verses out of context in order to prove my preconceived ideas.
But I must say, thank you, Ms Green, wherever your soul is resting, for writing your book. It has given me a better appreciation for that Book you so hated.
Loved it!! Nancy Hicks-MAReview Date: 2007-03-19
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Answers to tough questionsReview Date: 2008-10-01
OK BookReview Date: 2007-08-31
I'd pass on this one unless you can check it out of the library.
InformativeReview Date: 2007-04-18
Just OkReview Date: 2008-07-18
In this book Josh McDowell and Don Stewart try to answer 61 of the most asked questions about the Christian faith. This is the first book that I have read that tries to tackle such a broad category of questions. They discuss reliability of the scriptures, archaeological evidence, creation and evolution, Miracles, world religions, and the list goes on and on. Its very hard to answer so many questions on so many topics well.
Some of the good things that this book does have is that many times as Christians we have a lot of questions we would like to have better answers to. Even those of us who hope to make the defense of the faith our profession, tend to have to focus on one area of study. This book does provide some decent answers to a few of the questions that one may not want to devote a lot of time researching. However, the age of this book makes me hesitant to rely on it too hevily because some of the information is outdated. Over all 3 stars. Not terrible and not great.
Useful and insightfulReview Date: 2006-07-11
I think this book was a very good read. Not something I'll read over and over again, but something I will return to from time to time. It talked about "inconsistencies" in the Bible, that a non-believer or a new believer might throw at you.
I do believe the best way to understand the Bible is to read it yourself, as another reviewer said, and Josh helps with that by giving LOTS of scriptual basis for his answers.
I would probably recommend it more to a non-beliver or a new beliver, while many strong Christinas might find it useful - they might also know the answers to many of the questions.
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