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Ghost Towns & Mining Camps of New MexicoReview Date: 2008-04-30
An excellent guideReview Date: 2005-10-16
Good book -- but information is out of dateReview Date: 2002-08-10
Maps very poor - almost useless - and out of dateReview Date: 2004-10-27
A bit dated, but still goodReview Date: 2004-05-26
Even so, there's not a better book anywhere about the ghost towns of New Mexico as they existed 20-30 years ago.
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Ideas for Adult EducationReview Date: 2006-11-28
I think Lindeman's book has proven its worth. Eighty years later, the adult education themes that Lindeman outlined are still in existence. Namely, that experience/situations not subjects/textbooks should guide the adult learner; education should be tailored to each specific student; education is an art; a teacher should assist a student in learning methods of self-discovery; education is a process, not an end; yes/no questions aren't worth asking; local affairs are more important than distant ones; and act on what you're learning to make positive changes in the society around you.
Readers of adult education literature will find Lindeman's themes repeated in other books. Jacob Riis in How the Other Half Lives, wrote years before Lindeman that education was a key to reform. He and Lindeman shared a poor immigrant background, and both sought to change the conditions of America's poor. Myles Horton took Lindeman's words to heart and created an entire school whose purpose was to create social change (read Unearthing Seeds of Fire: The Idea of Highlander). Horton and Lindeman both studied the Danish Folk Schools to learn more about their methods. Benjamin Franklin, long before Lindeman's time, demonstrated what Lindeman formalized, that people need to continuously improve themselves, to grow. Franklin used a small group format to create a discussion association called the Junta.
I thoroughly enjoy a book written as Lindeman's is in short essays. I appreciate the important finer points written in short concise chapters. Adults pressed for time can pick up his book, read one essay (chapter) get the whole picture and then put the book down until another day without losing any of the book's momentum. This book is a must read for adult educators. It is a classic that should be found in the current section bookshelf of all instructors of adults. The essays continue to remain timely and it is a book that can be revisited often.
An Adult Educator's viewReview Date: 2006-11-06
Lindeman's vision for adult education was not bound by a classroom, textbooks and formal instruction. Instead Lindeman suggests that education comes from people's experience, situations and ideals. "The real distinction between educated and uneducated persons is not to be found in such superficial criteria as academic degrees, formal study or accumulation of facts; indeed, formal learning may, and often does, lead people into narrow scholarship and out of life." (Lindeman, 110)
Lindeman was known in the social philosophy arena, yet his work in adult education has earned him the respect as a founding father. His book has many references to reformation in education and progressive influences, reflective of the thinking at the time of his writing. One theme that is clear throughout the book is that learning expands well beyond the confines of mandatory education of children. He clearly states this in the beginning of the book by declaring that "education is life - ...the whole of life is learning, therefore education can have no endings." (Lindeman, 5) This thinking certainly has become the foundation of adult education as practiced today.
Lindeman further states that "the approach to adult education will be via the route of situations, not subjects...in adult education the curriculum is built around the student's needs and interests." (Lindeman, 6) In this approach texts and teachers are secondary to situations that create learning in the adult's daily life. This flows into Lindeman's fourth assumption of adult education, which is the value of the learner's experience. As Lindeman says, "If education is life, then life is also education." (Lindeman, 6) These themes have continued as major tenets of adult education in the decades since Lindeman's writing.
In the chapter entitled, "Those Who Would Create" Lindeman states "Intelligence for power, power for self-expression, and self expression in a context of relative freedom: this is the sequence which leads to creative living." (Lindeman, 53) He goes on to say that a learner will not seek a lone objective and find this freedom, but instead allows the forces to interact together, generating creativity. Such was the case for Benjamin Franklin, he sought education or learning for learning's sake. Through this learning, he was able to express himself on a multitude of topics with both countrymen and gentlemen. This great diversity and knowledge came together at many different times to generate extraordinary creativity.
After reading Lindeman's thoughts on trade unions one can't help but think that it would have been interesting to hear a discussion between him and Myles Horton, the founder of Highlander Folk School. After reading the book, Unearthing the Seeds of Fire - The Idea of Highlander, a reader is inspired to learn of the way in which the desperately poor in the state of Tennessee banded together to learn and solve their problems. Many times this involved confrontational methods, such as marching, demonstrating, or even striking. Lindeman, however, believes that "if adults approach education with the end view that their new knowledge is to be the instrument of a probable future revolution, they will almost certainly defeat the very purposes of learning." These Highlanders created revolution in their environment, the purpose of their learning was to make changes to better their lives. They were very effective in accomplishing a number of goals related to jobs, fair wages, discriminatory and environmental issues. They sacrificed much in their struggles, yet Lindeman would suggest that this form of revolution should be used "only when the true learning process has broken down, failed." (Lindeman, 49) This reader would suggest that there are times when revolution is necessary for change because traditional methods are failing some in society.
In the book, How the Other Half Lives, by Jacob Riis, one senses the desperation in the lives of those who lived in the tenements in New York City. Riis did an admirable job shedding light on their plight, but one couldn't help but wonder why so few of them tried to escape or better their condition. In Lindeman's book, he speaks briefly of Utopia:
"We have once more reached one of those historical periods which seems like a dead-end because the shell of the old institutions and habits, although crumbling, still possess sufficient resiliency to prevent the new from bursting forth. In like periods of the past, thinkers with vision turned occasion to account by imagining and portraying perfect societies, Utopias. The function of Utopia is to set activity toward new goals, to visualize the consequences of changed conduct, to redirect ideals. We need not lose ourselves in fanciful, legendary and unrealizable dreams but if we do not utilize our present difficulties as opportunities for equally adventurous challenges to the future, we shall deserve to be recorded a generation of people who possessed many things but lacked courage and vision for higher ventures." (Lindeman, 83)
Although the immigrants living in New York City tenements did not possess much, they had come to America in search of their Utopia, yet it seems that they became trapped in a crumbling shell of old institutions. That combined with old habits seemed to prevent them from "bursting forth" and creating new circumstances for themselves.
There are many nuggets of wisdom in the book that deserve more thought and reflection than the casual read affords. This book is one to keep on the shelves for further reference and guidance as educators continue their search for creating dynamic environments for adult learners. The book is rich with inspiration and challenges. It is a great book for those in the field wanting renewed stimulation. It is not a book for new educators that will give prescribed patterns or a framework for successful adult education.
A Mecca of info on Adult EducationReview Date: 2006-11-04
Lindeman Review
ADED5510
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October 31 , 2006
Lindeman, E.C. (1961). The Meaning of Adult Education. Canada: Harvest House.
(1989 rev. Ed.). Norman, OK: Oklahoma Research Center for Continuing Professional and Higher Education.
In adult education today "the more we know about adult learning, the more effective our practice in the classroom, in the workplace, or in our communities" (Merriam, 2001, p. 1). Therefore, valid information about the purpose, meaning, and processes of adult education is useful indeed. In 1926, Eduard Lindeman provided a new sense of awareness to the field of adult education as he shared critical and beneficial insights. His book, titled The Meaning of Adult Education thoroughly examines adult education. The answers to the puzzling questions concerning adult education are interspersed throughout the philosophically challenging text. However, the pieces of the puzzle are drawn together toward the end of the book. The reader then comes to the realization that the totality of Lindeman's effort has answered the critical queries about the purpose, meaning, and processes of adult education.
This seminal work of Lindeman transmits understanding of the foundations of adult education. A profound purpose is stated as the author "reflects progressive education's faith in education's ability to develop the individual and social intelligence, that is, the practical understanding of the world in which we live" (Merriam, 1984, p. 17). This end is accomplished through the revelation of his underlying assumptions of adult education. The exploration of individual aspects of personality, the collectivization of these aspects and their relation to methods of adult education satisfy the requirements of his assumptions. A review of Lindeman's assumptions and the connections made to them reveal deep knowledge and a practical wisdom derived from experience as a social philosopher, educator, and scholar.
The assumptions remind the learner that adult education is inclusive of all aspects of life, the "purpose is to put meaning into the whole of life" (Lindeman, p. 5), the approach should go through situations, and not subjects; and the learner's experiences provide pertinent resources for living. The goal of these assumptions is improvement of oneself and the necessity of accomplishing this goal is a vital personality. A vital personality requires the following attributes as a necessary path for learning; "knowledge leads to power, power leads to self expression, freedom and creativity, creative freedom leads to enjoyable experience, and finally, a world in which knowledge goes forward under a discipline of specialization" (Lindeman, p.94.).
A vital personality enables the adult learner to confront "the socialized environment of the modern world" (Lindeman, p. 95). Consequently, the adult learner is prepared for adult education. In the final chapter, Lindeman insists that adult learners can not learn through the traditional methods of subject study. Rather, adult education must be accomplished through a situation approach. This approach will "give meaning to the categories of experiences, not to the classifications of knowledge" (Lindeman, p. 123).
Certainly, the content of Lindeman's text and the ideas expressed therein possess the capability to answer the important queries of adult education. An overview of the book reveals information for adult educators, adult learners, and any person interested in self improvement. The optimum demonstration of the utilitarian value of Lindeman's invaluable work is its contribution toward the progressive nature of adult education. His dual purpose of adult education consisted of improving both society and the individual. This view progresses Franklin's educational and democratic initiatives, instills a method for social reform, and inspires educational activists like Myles Horton.
Furthermore, Lindeman placed the highest value on experience, specifically the learner's experience. He stated that "experience is the adult learner's textbook" (1961, p. 7). A contemporary of Lindeman, John Dewey stated in his notable work Education and Experience that "all genuine education comes about through experience" (1938, p. 13). Additionally, Lindeman, as a mentor to Malcolm Knowles, helped provide a foundation for his assumption of andragogy. Knowles reiterates the point of Dewey and Lindeman when he states that adults "accumulate an increasing reservoir of experience that becomes an increasingly rich resource for learning" (1980, p. 14). Also, a tradition of critical reflective practice; pragmatist constructivism obtains background from Lindeman's work in adult education, specifically how people understand and interpret their experience (Brookfield, 2000).
The methods shared by the author also inform the reader that the situation-approach is a superior method for adults to learn. The present day theory of context-based learning employs a process of situated learning. The process, a derivative of the situation-approach uses interaction among learners, the tools of learners, the learning activity, and the social context. The learning is facilitated and shaped by this contextual process, a social and situational experience of learning, similar in many respects to Lindeman's situation-approach (Merriam, 2001).
In The Meaning of Adult Education, author Eduard Lindeman successfully provides the reader with an explanation for the meaning of education. This is illustrated by a cornucopia of knowledge and insight about adult education. Unsurprisingly, the concepts of this book are still studied today and many of the principles espoused by Lindeman are in prominent practice in the field of adult education. This concise text is a Mecca of valuable information for those involved in adult education and is highly recommended for anyone seeking knowledge and wisdom from life. Essentially, Eduard Lindeman said "education is life" (1961, p. 4), an educational experience of continuous learning with a vital personality fulfilling the preparation of life; a life with meaning, a life with growth, a life of becoming (1961, p. 128-129).
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to pedagogy. (2nd ed.). New York: Cambridge Books.
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A Timeless Book on Adult EducationReview Date: 2004-11-10
Lindeman has captured the meaning of adult education and given us words of wisdom to use as we continue to strive towards understanding adult students in relation to their learning process, their environment and their success in the classroom.
History of Adult Education from Colonial to Post-Industrial AmericaReview Date: 2006-11-16
Eduard C. Lindeman's profound insight into teaching methods, learning theories, and diverse motivations for adult learning are beautifully illustrated in his classic work: The Meaning of Adult Education. Lindeman's ideas are original, comprehensive in their approach to the adult learner, and express a breath of understanding of adult education, which was not to be formally developed by theorists until decades later.
Lindeman originally published this book in 1926, and like Myles Horton, he was influenced by the world around him. Horton (Adams, 1975) and Lindeman both had first-hand knowledge about Danish developments in adult education. Lindeman was impressed by the folk school that he experienced on a trip to Denmark in 1920. The Volkshochschulen was a place where farmers came to pursue self-improvement. (p., xli) Danes participated in vast cooperatives, and these economic enterprises gave them leisure time to devote to adult education while providing everyone with a comfortable standard of living. At a time in the United States when industrialization and labor movements in the north and Jim Crow in the south perpetuated poverty and Black Sunday looming on the horizon, the Danish Volkshochschulen must have seemed like a utopia. The Volkshochschulen had a tremendous impact on Lindeman and his ideas about the possibilities of adult education.
"The whole of life is learning," writes Lindeman (p. 5). This exemplifies Lindeman's timeless ideas about life-long learning and that he believed adult education is one point on a continuum of learning. In the chapter entitled Those Who Need to be Learners, Lindeman demonstrates his deep insight into how adults learn. He writes about the importance of the context of education and that "experience is the adult learner's living textbook." (p. 7) He argues for educators to recognize the necessity of teaching adults "actualities, not abstractions," which today is one of the basic tenants of adult education. (p. 6)
There is a gap between what is being taught in the educational system and what learners will actually use in the real world. For example, Lindeman argues that the educational system promotes "self-expression", but society "regards self-expression as an aspect of abnormality." (p. 35) Rather than pursue this futile end, Lindeman sees adult education as a means of transcending this dissonance by encouraging and facilitating adult education that teaching learners how to learn and to the love of learning. The process of learning in more important to Lindeman than some measurable outcome. Lindeman's poignant recollection of the Danish farmer is a case in point. Lindeman saw a painting created by the farmer and offered to purchase it. The farmer was completely insulted and "he not only refused to bargain but severely reprimanded me for presuming to place a pecuniary valuation upon the product of his recreation." (p. 40)
Humanistic values are evident in Lindeman's work decades before their formal development as a theoretical basis during the 1950's. For example, Lindeman writes, "the psycho-therapeutic specialist does not cure his patient; he merely assists the patient in learning the methods of self-recovery." (p. 46) Today, this is central to client-guided therapy and teaching based on humanistic theories. Lindeman wrote this at the height of psycho-analytical popularity.
The construct of intelligence is another issue Lindeman addresses. Rather than be measurable, his notions of intelligence recognize that there are different types of intelligence and that each individual is a unique mix of different types of aptitudes. He argues that we must recognize and celebrate this diversity in order to facilitate others in finding their unique intelligence in order to express themselves, experience self-knowledge, and be creative. This is Lindeman's definition of freedom, and the role of the teacher is to facilitate this-another example of his humanistic views.
The "Danish farmer who...talked less about art because he lived artistically," is our model for adult education. The painter was about the process, not the painting. Lindeman uses this example to show us that adult learning is a creative process and if allowed to fully engage in learning, adult learners, each of us, "can all live artistically." (p., 59) This rings true of Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. One could say that given the tools, adult education is a means to self-discovery and self-actualization.
Like Karl Marx, Lindeman warns us about specialization. He writes about specialization in education, industry, and government. Specialization in education turns discovery and creative thinking into categorical sets of information. In a sense, this is a preemptive criticism of cognitivism, but is best viewed as an argument for allowing the true intellectual process to occur. Lindeman sees the "evils of specialism" as an effective means of social and intellectual control. (p. 75) Lindeman argues for a broad liberal education as an undergraduate and reserving specialization for post-graduate studies. He warns us that specialism in government may lead to "more efficient results will be accomplished when power tends to become absolute and centralized." (p. 81) Specialism is a particular evil in industry and possesses the ability to isolate workers more and more from the means of their production. This specialism eventually leads to increased specialism. The influence of Marx's views on capitalism and Max Weber's notions of bureaucracy are evident in Lindeman's notions about specialism, and this part of Lindeman's thesis is thrilling to read.
Lindeman was a sociologist at heart, and his chapter on groups and membership reaffirms his humanistic views that acknowledge the holistic nature of individuals and the fact that we are social creatures. For example, Lindeman writes: "Growth should be a process of integrating emotions with thought, an evolving capacity for feeling more deeply and thinking more clearly." ( p. 110) This deep insight demonstrates that Lindeman understood the affective aspects of learning and that adult learners learn best when new information can be related to other aspects of their lives. Lindeman has a keen understanding of the motivations of adult learners. Education, in Lindeman's view, is a source of directing collective action much like Horton's work at the Highlander Folk School. (Adams, 1975)
"To be educated is not to be informed but to find illumination in informed living" is Lindeman's definition of educated, learned. Mark Twain would say that Lindeman didn't let his learnin' interfere with his education. Lindeman's book is a masterpiece of insight into human nature, society, the academic vs. the pragmatic, and a testament to a great thinker way ahead of his time. This book should be on the "must read" list of anyone associated with adult education and it will be of importance in the study of sociology, psychology, social work, and anthropology. This book is packed with information, and there are certainly numerous interest I have gleaned over. With that in mind, this book could be read by anyone who likes non-fiction. It is a pleasure to read, every word carries meaning, and each new chapter reveals a little more about the it means to be an adult learner, the role of the teacher, and the influences, internal and external, on motivation and fulfillment of adult education.

Could I do this? 3 years of capitivityReview Date: 2008-02-08
Most of the books seem to be about young children or perhaps a young woman. The treatment and thoughts of an adult male were interesting. I kept wondering if I could have gone thru the ordeal. A quick read and makes you appreciate today! If you like history you will enjoy this true story.
First Hand.Review Date: 2006-07-15
As an author and a person that have lived among the Indians,I am familiar with a lot of what Lee has declared. Indian culture, no matter the tribes, has a great deal of weired beleifs, witchcraft included. They like smoking the weed and getting high.I suggest you buy the story, I assure it walks with truth.
Pretty good read...but take with a grain of saltReview Date: 2007-01-13
Good period piece, taken with a grain of saltReview Date: 2006-05-21
First Hand Account of the West and its dangersReview Date: 2006-01-23

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Heart strings play a symphonyReview Date: 2003-09-03
A true story of survival at it's best and worst.Review Date: 2002-08-09
I don't agreeReview Date: 2003-08-30
It is very unbelievable.
A Definite Read!. Truth is stranger than fiction...Review Date: 2002-10-30
Must read!!Review Date: 2002-10-03

Hitler - a study of ..Review Date: 2008-06-23
"First Book of Profiling"Review Date: 2008-06-18
An Excellent Study of HitlerReview Date: 2004-01-25
Though Hitler's madness may appear to be based primarily on his anti-Semitic beliefs, the book rarely focuses on this subject and shows that there was more to his hate than just hate for the Jews. Ironically, as the book explains, he befriended and was aided by a number of Jews throughout his life.
Clearly ambition and Providence play a key role in Hitler's life, and one can only wonder what Hitler would have done with his life had he not endured such malaise before his rise to power. Ironically, Langer's perspective on Hitler makes it possible for the reader to feel an iota of sympathy for a man who is responsible for killing millions of people.
There are many facts found in the book that I would never have imagined could have been true. I recommend this book to anyone who wishes to find out almost everything there is to know about Adolf Hitler.
The motives behind the manReview Date: 2001-04-06
One of the Most Interesting Books I've EVER Read!!Review Date: 2002-05-09

A Man Who Really LIved!Review Date: 2007-02-20
The book goes through his childhood and his traveling adventures as a young man to working for his brothers in the oil business and then venturing out on his own starting his own oil company. Later on in life he moved into Real Estate and seemed to make money at everything he did. He was also a great philanthropist who gave away his prized New Mexico ranch to the Boy Scouts and along with that an office building in Tulsa to provide income for it's upkeep. One of his epigrams was "The only things we really keep are those we give away."
The book has 39 chapters and is only 375 pages long. It has many pictures of family and some of the buildings that he owned. It also contains exerts from Waite's diary and many of his own epigrams which are very insightful and gives you a real perspective of who Waite was.
It is the story that makes this book so great. Anyone I believe can appreciate the way Waite lived his life and will walk away with maybe a renewed perspective on life.
Review of Beyond the Hills: The Journey of Waite PhillipsReview Date: 2005-07-07
Excellent workReview Date: 2003-08-19
His struggles to succeed are well told, and by his ultimate success, he would become a wealthy man. A man with the sense of good who would later will his fortune of land to the Boy Scouts of America.
Oil-rich WaitePhillips becomes richer by giving it all away.Review Date: 1999-11-05
A fully interesting book that makes you want to readReview Date: 1999-10-27
To the thousands who visit Philmont every year, for training, for a wilderness experience, or to serve on staff, this book should give you the information and attitude you need to truly appreciate the experience.
And you'll realize you should be kind to any old "cowboy" you meet in the backcountry -- it could be Chope.

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It must be great, BUT IT's MY DIRECT FAMILY>Review Date: 1999-06-13
Your book must be great, but since it happens to be about my DIRECT grandparents, could you please send a courtesy copy to me. I tried ordering thru you and never rec'd the book. I have had excerpts read to me by other members of family that found the book & I must say I'm shocked. I feel I deserve the right to have a courtesy copy. Any and all of the part of S. P. Brassfield, Abner Brassfield and Abner Jr. you sure hit home. Thank you for your time, I will be anxious to hear from you.
Truly enjoyableReview Date: 1999-04-15
Oklahoma bad men and lawmen come to lifeReview Date: 2005-11-30
Mike Koch, author of "The Kimes Gang."
EXCELLENTReview Date: 1999-03-30
Interesting piece of American historyReview Date: 2002-11-03
The book discusses some of the most notorious black and Indian outlaws (and lawmen) of the Indian (and then Oklahoma) territory. I must admit that I had not heard of most of the names. I was surprised to read of how many black men had served as deputy United States Marshals in this region before statehood.
The author seems to have done extensive research on the subjet, and quotes regularly from newspaper articles and other writings from the late 1800's and early 1900's.

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Great ReadingReview Date: 2007-03-06
Good book but lacked depthReview Date: 2006-03-03
Brutal but Honest Depiction of WarReview Date: 2006-01-30
How to keep 700 men alive, sans food, for 4 days.Review Date: 2006-04-29
Eye Deep in Hell.Review Date: 2006-01-15

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Mysteries & HistoriesReview Date: 2008-07-18
Sorry, this one just doesn't make itReview Date: 2006-10-13
If this book were a term paper handed in by an undergraduate student, I'd be hard pressed to give it more than a B-. It unduly repeats the most simple points, often in exactly the same language but a few pages later. It's as if there were no editor with the gumption to say that it needed to be cleaned up and "flow" better. If it had been handed in by a graduate student, I would have failed it and returned it to them. It's a little shocking to see that this was drafted by not only a college professor, but by a Department Head who presumably has a PhD.
The author has undoubtedly done a lot of work in researching the particular subjects of his study. This makes sense because it is a branch of his family. Reading between the lines here, it probably finally got someone off his back to write the family history up, and I'm sure that they're thrilled. The research reagarding that part of the effort seems solid and believable.
The credibility of the work, however, is diminished by several things not the least of which (at least, to me), is the authors apparent lack of study and comprehension of legal documents. For example, the author continually makes reference to the fact that the various deeds recite the sale price as "$1 and other valuable consideration," and attempts to portray this as a method of reducing the taxes on the transaction.
What he failed to discover is that this is a relatively universal method of reciting actual consideration to support the conveyance of land, dating back to William the Conqueror in the year 1066. It has no impact on taxes, and an examination of the records most times will reflect "documentary stamps" on the face of the deed which are calculated in proportion to the actual sale price. Comparison to the records indicating the tax rate at the time the documents were filed should have easily have provided a sale price for those transactions that were truly done as something other than a gift.
The other thing that is somewhat curious is the recitation of parts of legal documents that are purely preprinted forms. After possibly the first one, they provide little or nothing to the story line and serve only to act as filler for the book. The same for legal descriptions of real property. The few maps provided are far more illustrative and instructional than the legal descriptions, given that most people do not have either the patience or the skill to map out a metes and bound description. A map is much clearer and easier to comprehend and put in context.
I agree with the earlier reviewer that this story line would be a great basis for a novel (or possibly a "made for TV movie"). There are elements to the story that are intriguing and interesting. In the current condition, though, it reads like little more than the midterm notes that a student would be required to present regarding what is going to be an end of term project. It is about as exciting as seeing someone else's vacation pictures, and probably merits about the same effort -- after 2 hours, you're tired and just want it to be over.
My recommendation is to take a pass on this one, as it's not worth the investment of either time or money.
Riveted to the endReview Date: 2005-11-16
A Compelling Story of a Homesteading FamilyReview Date: 2005-11-14
Family secrets make fascinating true taleReview Date: 2005-11-20
This book is an excellent model of how to bring family history to life. Lineback is a geographer. He uses his knowledge to explain how his family was affected by landscape and climate, as well as the social conditions of their time. The period of Charley Craft's life 1872-1934, saw the opening of the American West. This is the backdrop to the story of a typical homesteader family in their struggle to build a grubstake and raise their family.
The secrets that motivated his central characters are all too human and easy to understand today. However the impact on the family is not just a device of fiction. Real people reacted in different ways to the events that shaped all members of the family, perhaps in different ways. Lineback tells his story simply and well. His research is transparent and adds greatly to the value of the book as an example of history informing the present.
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A Little DisappointingReview Date: 2005-04-17
While he was obviously a very strong and able leader there are hints that he ruled partly out of fear, that he had a terrible temper, and that he was known to strike members of his band and his wives from time to time. If this is so, it would make him an unusual leader amongst American Indians. I can understand that Sweeney may not have wanted to engage in speculation, but more eye witness accounts from captives or Indians who knew Cochise would have made this more interesting. Even the years he spent on the reservation are covered rather sparsely, though I'm sure there must have been more information about what he did, the company he kept, etc.
While informative to a certain extent, this reads like a laundry list of engagements and treaties and would have been better titled as a history of the Chiricahua Apache than a biography of Cochise.
Authoritative, Even-Handed, with Exhaustive ResearchReview Date: 2001-09-20
Sweeney's historical and geographic backgrounds, as well as extensive testimonials from the characters around Cochise, truly make the story come alive. Of special interest are many of Sweeney's footnotes, in which he gives a brief life story of just about every single person mentioned in the story (wherever possible). Sweeney is also ready to admit when information is missing, which is very refreshing for a biography. And in an even-handed fashion, Sweeney is not afraid to criticize Cochise at points, such as when he flouted his agreement to stay on the Chiricahua reservation to allow his warriors to continue raiding in Mexico.
Anyone who reads this book will come to greatly respect Cochise as a man, even if some of his actions were brutal. Unfortunately, this story ends like all other works of Native American history, with the eventual destruction of the people's independence. But while he was in his prime, you can't help but root for Cochise.
BEWARE ! Before you purchase this book, take the time to read this review! You won't be sorry you did - Review Date: 2005-12-07
This book on Cochise is worthless. You will learn nothing really revealing about this Indian, and will be offered long-known details laced with FANCIFUL AND WHIMSICAL interpretations - interpretations which mean nothing accurate in terms of history or in terms of a correct view of this chief. Let me explain:
The major approach of Sweeney ( and the other two authors I've mentioned here )to everything and anything conected with the Apache Indians is to lead the reader to believe in several utterly incorrect propositions which completely distort a truthful understanding of these Indians. Here are the propositions:
1. The Apache lived in the mountains of the Southwest for ages and they valiantly defended these ancestral homelands or home ranges against European invaders.
2. The Apache were fierce and mighty warriors "without equal" and their leaders were supermen - Napoleons of the Desserts - who could out-think, out-fight, and out-maneuver their stupid and weak European enemies.
2a. The Apache were ultra-courageous, fearless, and undaunted in the face of much more numerous enemies.
3. The Apache were only unable to continue their resistance because they were so few in number. If they had had more warriors, they would have prolonged the struggle indefinitely.
I will now explain the complete fraud behind these three propositions - propositions which form the base for what can only be described as a "Propaganda / Party Line" held by authors like Sweeney, who are IN LOVE with these Apache of the late frontier era, and gleefully willing to distort historic fact in order to promote a view of their beloved Indians that is entirely invalid and equal to mere fantasy, not history. Please read on and LEARN -
False "Fact #1 = The ancestral homeland of the Apaches was the mountains of the desserts of the Southwest.
True FACT = When first contacted by Europeans ( French explorers ) the Apache Indians lived on the central/southern PLAINS. They inhabited the plains from the Dismal River of what is now Nebraska, and were spread south all the way into Mexico, and west to the Rockies and the edge of the mountains in what became eastern New Mexico.
The Apache culture was a combination of aggriculture ( cultivating maize, pumpkins, beans, and squash ) and hunting of bison and other plains wildlife as a means of securing food stuffs. These activities were supplemented with a warlike aspect that caused the Apache to prey upon more peaceful Indian tribes of the southern plains, and upon the Spanish colonizers when they finally appeared and began settling northern Mexico and areas of what ultimately became Texas and New Mexico.
In the late 1600's, the Comanches began moving southward from what is now Montana and began clashing with the extensive Apache tribal groups. By 1706, the Comanche had smashed the Apache settlements from the Dismal River south to the mid-Texas plains and also west across the northwestern plains of what became New Mexico.
The Comanche literally slaughtered the Apaches en mass, killing them wherever they found them. They exterminated several large tribal groups while decimating others to such an extent that they were mere fragments of what they had originally been in terms of numbers. By 1725, ALL Apache tribal groups were either anihilated or severely destroyed and forced to flee from the game-rich southern plains forever.
The fragments of the original tribal groups were pushed up into the mountains of western New Mexico, Eastern Arizona, and northwestern Mexico.
The Spanish colonizers, who had been plagued by Apache attacks, became aware of what had happend due to the relentless Comanche assaults, and in some instances joined forces with the Comanches to further decimate the Apaches ( Lipans, Jicarillas, etc. ) who made up the largest and most troublesome BAND FRAGMENTS in the mid-1700's. Also, the Spanish hired Comanche tribal groups to enter Mexican Provinces and kill Apaches who were raiding there. In one year's time, the Provincial Treasury of just one Province alone, paid the Comanche over 18,000 Pesos ( 6 Pesos for each Apache scalp the Comanche delivered ).
The Comanche, who were utterly victorious over the Apache, began hunting them in the Provinces of Chihuahua, Sonora, and Durango. The Apaches were safe only when holed up in the highest, most remote mountains in all Mexican provinces and also in what became New Mexico and Arizona.
This all took place BEFORE Indians like Cochise, Mangas Coloradas, Juh, Victorio, Delgadito, etc. were leaders.
!!!! It also explains what the Apaches were doing in the mountains of the Southwest !!!!
You see, the Apache NEVER wanted to live in these parched, game-scarce mountains. They had no choice in the matter. After the Comanches' total conquest of the southern plains, the Apaches became one of the poorest tribes of AmerIndians. Their numbers were severely cut down to the point where they actually no longer constituted real "tribes" or "tribal groups" at all, but instead were mere BANDS - surviving fragments of long-vanished Tribal groups.
Furthermore, the Apache had no choice but to space the births of their children out by four years ( one child born per family every four years ). This was not due to some mystical concept, it was simple practicality. There was not sufficient food available in their new hide outs to keep a population healthy and well-fed except if children were born years apart. This is a very significant point - please remember it, because it will become highly significant when I tell you how utterly FALSE the image of Cochise ( and all other Apache leaders ) is as promoted by Sweeney, Thrapp, and Roberts.
**** Also note: Geronimo relates in his autobiography how, when he was a child, his family would cultivate corn, beans, and pumpkins in certain areas of their dessert homes. Geronimo lived at a time long after the Apache had fled the southern plains, but during his childhood there was apparently enough of a memory left among the adults which allowed for aggricultural activities to be embarked upon at least some of the time when they were settled in one place for an extended period.
! So, here is the first "nail in the coffin" for books like this one: The Apaches did not have any ancestral homeland in the mountains of the southwest. They were forced to live there. They lacked food, and became one of the poorest AmerIndians on the continent thanks to having to locate themselves in these mountains. Their numbers were small due to being slaughtered by the Comanches, not due to careful planning so as to "fit into" the delicate enviroment of the dessert.
Now for FALSE FACTS #2 & 2a: The Apaches were fierce, courageous, and mighty warriors without equal. And their leaders were supermen of the southwestern desserts who could out-fight, out-think, and out-maneuver their European enemies.
TRUE FACTS: The Apache preyed upon the peaceful Indian tribes of the central and Southern Plains while they were in control of vast stretches of territory from the Dismal River in what became Nebraska, south and southwest across all the game-rich plains. However, they were exterminated or decimated and completely routed by the Comanche, who were responsible for the remainder of Apache population fragments fleeing to the most inaccessible mountains of the dessert southwest. Later, the even more fierce Kiowa appeared, allied themselves with the Comanche, and also slaughtered Apaches wherever they found them.
*** Note: Victorio and the Mimbres Apaches ( a Band Fragment, not a true tribal group ) had a record of being kept constantly on the move by Comanche, Kiowa, Texas Rangers, US Army, and Mexican Regulars until finally run to ground and exterminated.
The Kiowa raided through all northeastern Mexican Provinces, and were often mistaken for Comanches as they attacked, Spanish ( and later Mexican settlements and holdings ), Anglos in Texas, and reached as far as the borders of Guatemala and Yucatan. The Comanches, and later the Kiowas, were the principle enemies of the Apaches. After these two tribes had relentlessly hit the Apache bands, the problems the Apaches caused the Spanish were nothing compared to what they had been before the appearance of the Comanche. The Apache bands became mere pests, and the Spanish considered them as nothing more than stealth predators and ambushing bushwackers. They were never considered as highly courageous warriors by the Spanish to begin with, and after the appearance of the Comanches, the Apaches were seen as cowards who either attacked from concealment, or out in the open if they outnumbered their intended victims significantly.
Juh and the Nedni Apaches stayed holed up in the mountains of Mexico because to venture out onto the plains to the east of their location would be to place them in open conflict with Comanche and Kiowa. This they avoided at all costs. Cochise and Mangas Coloradas - two chiefs who the likes of Sweeney, Thrapp, and Roberts seek to glorify by describing as "mighty warriors with high intelligence, far-sightedness for their people's wellfare, and superb military strategy" were merely wolfish cowards conducting hit-and-run raids against much larger, far less mobile European forces AND COMPLETELY AVOIDING ANY AND ALL CONTACT WITH COMANCHE AND KIOWA FORCES TO THE EAST.
Consider for a moment that these two chiefs ( with their bands combined ) never so much as dared to venture out onto the southern plains to reclaim the game-rich areas of western New Mexico, which would have meant much more food and much easier living for their people. And thus, would have meant a rapid increase in their populations! Instead, they skulked in the mountain fastness of their so-called "strongholds" ( actually hide-outs ).
The Apache of Cochise's time were cowardly, poor, skulkers keeping to their mountain hide-outs and preying upon small Mexican settlements and holdings on the American side of the border if and when they could manage to outnumber their victims. They were considered as utterly inferior by the Comanche and Kiowa. The Texas Rangers and Black "Buffalo Soldiers" of the US Army, fould them easy to fight, but hard to corner. The US Army and Mexican Army found them troublesome because they were like needles in a haystack to locate due to being so few in number and hiding in such remote and rugged areas.
!!! This does not indicate "courageous and mighty warriors under the leadership of militarily brilliant chiefs who were superb fighters and strategists !!!
Realistically, Cochise, Mangas Coloradas, Victorio, Juh, and ALL other Apaches written about by the likes of Sweeney, Thrapp, and Roberts, were just as the Spanish had pegged their elders decades earlier - mere stealth predators and ambushing bushwackers who would cut and run when confronted, and who would attack from concealment and then quickly disappear.
Lastly, FALSE FACT #3: The Apaches had to cease their struggle against European invaders due to lack of numbers. If they had had more warriors, they would have prolonged their struggle indefinitely.
TRUE FACT: The Apaches managed to last as long as they did BECAUSE THEY WERE FEW IN NUMBER, not in spite of it ! For a certain amount of time, small forces are higly mobile and able to avoid larger forces in military conflicts. If the Apache populations actually comprised true Tribal Groups rather than fragmented bands, they would have been defeated or exterminated en mass long before the last of them surrendered or made treaties ( as in the case of Cochise ) because they would be far less mobile, and so would have been cornered, engaged, and eliminated.
I hope you are beginning to see through the fraud concerning these Indians which is promoted in Story Books like this one ( and all others by Sweeney, Thrapp, and Roberts ). In order to get a realistic, truthful perspective on the Apache ( or any other AmerIndians ) you have to carefully explore many other sources of information besides the simple details connected to Apache conflicts with US Army forces during the late frontier era. You cannot trust modern-day STORY TELLERS who churn out trash literature in order to indulge in their bizarre and irrational love affair with long-vanished Indians. Authors like this one want one thing, and that is to get you to buy into their fantasies about these Indians! They don't care about historic facts or how century-spanning trends explain significant things about the Apache. They simply want to construct a totally FALSE front image of these Indians - a fantasy image as false as if they claimed the Apache landed on earth from some other planet!
If you're sincerely interested in learning about the Apaches and in figuring out the likes of Cochise or any of their other well-known leaders, you simply cannot afford to pass by the following titles I am going to recommend. Read them and get set straight - and avoid Fantasy-as-Fact nonsense promoted by Sweeney, Thrapp, and Roberts.
Comanches (Pimlico Wild West)
The Kiowas (Civilization of the American Indian Series)
The Indians of Texas: From Prehistoric to Modern Times (Texas History Paperbacks)
Life Among the Apaches (Bison Book)
Nine Years Among the Indians, 1870-1879: The Story of the Captivity and Life of a Texan Among the Indians
The full account of the Apache and CochiseReview Date: 2003-09-14
This book os so thorough so well written and so unflawed in its great depth of study of the experiences of Apache in Arizona and Mexico and slowly theyw ere driven from thier way of life.
This is a must read, superior to any biography of similar Native American characters.
Rescued from RomanticismReview Date: 2001-06-17
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